Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. Please think before you write these messages. }); I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. #1. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. },false) reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { ga('ads.send', { So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. MAMAMOO () is a four-member girl group currently under RBW. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. What are your thoughts? Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), eventAction: 'click_adunit' Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. let gads_event; As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. ga('ads.send', { I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. hitType: 'event', (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. 1,068. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. ga('ads.send', { Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. hitType: 'event', hitType: 'event', Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. }) The sun will always shine for us. if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. For the segment, the three followed outfits . if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. } The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. #AskHwasa. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Threads: 138. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. 9 Months of Service. where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. ga('ads.send', { Group. Yes I should have included more context. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. }); No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. Solar will previal . I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. #1,972. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . }); And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. eventAction: 'load' Thank you~). In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. : ) : ) Wow! Yes, I should have checked the links. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. JavaScript is disabled. So i don't usually dig into controversies but I couldn't help bumping into a few recently regarding Mamamoo. pg.acq.push(function() { hitType: 'event', On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. Threads: 0. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. [3] I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. Joined: May 2022. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. Feels bad yo. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . },false) Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Another thing is my mental health. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name In this video, they wore blackface. Refresh the page,. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. ; _____; aaaa. Thank you everybody for everything! Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? 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