Its not. Denna-nenna-nent-nent-denna-nenna-nenna-nenna-Denna-nenna-nent-nent-denna-nenna-nenna-nenna Ma-Ma-Ma-My Sharona!. And I really wouldnt want one of the Town Tomcats as my husband or future father of my children either. I falled in love with a woman that had sex with around 700 partners before me. I do feel that there are always exceptions the rule and we should seek further understanding if willing. If the number really didnt matter, couples could ask about it and I feel if we allow ourselves to be more open, honest, and loving in our approach then we can see much better results. I understand your position, but I do not agree that it is the best approach. Or would you rather have a car thats bee driven by a lot of different people. At times, those emotions cause us to make poor decisions. Women never need to work to get sex. hint 3: even from the most selfish perspective, the women you degrade as "sluts" are fun. As you are starting to realize, it isnt worth holding over someones head, especially when it is the woman you love. While you are Dating or trying to marry a woman who have lived life and around 35+ age and then you realized you are just a number and may be not. Life goes on and if they are not insomeones oh well. Heck, Ive even dated a slut, for a year! So ..does it have something to do with how many men u have slept with??? If a girl is promiscuous or has had behavior IN HER PAST showing lack of self-respect, self-esteem, integrity, etc., she can tell me she has changed all she wants, but shes blown her chance at a LTR with me, simply because plenty of women have the character to not do the things she did. I agree that at the core, this issue stems from control. Really think about this! Women behave as sluts for many reasons. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Why is that so conveniently forgotten? Sad to say that women nowadays are sleeping around more than men do. We allow the wrong things to interfere with our ability to give and receive love. Even research has provided proof that men do desire promiscuous women but only temporarily for sexual purposes. Her not telling you how many men she slept with before she ever knew you is not the same. Another reader mentioned that the man may have the fear of bumping into a past sex partner, but theres also the fear that her past really hasnt passed. Your girlfriend will likely be very reassuring about everything, and you'll feel better after talking things over. Some women can have a very low number and be as emotionally damages (if not more) then other women with a much higher number. Sheila Saeung Jesus was a trouble maker, who got what he deserved. Sex is suppose to be something special between two people not the neighborhood. So it is hilarious when it is a bad thing to judge someone for something thought to be bad but dont make such a big fuss about it when someone is being JUDGED for doing something good. Do you think that you can scold men into non judgement ? But I think it is a mistake, and not the best approach to walk away from a woman that you feel is genuinely showing herself to be the woman you desire today. Compare apples to apples, Crazy Obsessed Man. Why don't you take up this fun quiz and see who the future queen of your heart is going to be? It It is actually a fact that the more partners a woman has had, the more likely the marriage is to fail, source:https://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html Nothing has ever been more important than that. Very true, plenty of sluts attempt to hide their sluttiness through subterfuge, yet they inevitably give off tells. Just doesnt have the same ring to it. Its cute (from the human perspective) and very fairytale like to add such insertions that we should not judge, but that is very delusional and REALITY makes a great point of it every single day! It doesnt make good sense. View her for who she is today, not the person she may have been previously. Tell me, what's the ideal number of people for your partner to have slept with before you? And, yes, you should know. I doubt youd go for that. I even recall my mother saying on several occasions how she would have probably married another man. And that is with all else being equal. I think its best to know what youre dealing with but at the same it doesnt matter because who they are today should speak volumes. Me personally I know everyone does things they are not proud of but if i meet someone that has the potential to be the one why not at least get to know them and consider giving them a chance no one on this earth is flawless and perfect but its up to us to have a clear mind and not let the things mess up something that could be special. Obviously, the sexual freedom we Consider your 20s your best years is VERY subjective. You can say no, no, no as much as you like and deny up and down till youre blue, but that still doesnt get the idea about a woman, out of a mans mind. The reality is that many people marry for the wrong reasons. There is nothing pure about these women. I want to dedicate long term to this girl as that is what I like to do when I commit to a relationship but I'm terrified that I will end up wasting a large amount of time on a girl who will end up cheating on me or blowing up in my face. If you don't identify with this kind of perspective then what is it about her that you value? Shame on you all. Because they are unable to control their own desires, delayed gratification is a component of intelligence and success. How quaint. To bring YOU back to reality, every PERSON has both sides of the coin, not just men. N women should respect themselves, and men should as well! As I've tried to read about the concept of dating a slut I have been unable to find any success stories about someone who has dated a slut long term but I have found a lot of mostly red pill stuff that has said it is a bad idea. So when a man does commit, he wanted to ensure that the woman he was investing his time and resources in was bearing his own children so that his genes were the ones being passed on and not other other mans child. thought out and weighed heavily with her morals and standards. issue out, then you should get out. Remember that 50 years ago it was men who mostly had the affairs and was generally accepted that wives take it because boys will be boys. or how many different babys daddy she has is not important. What is more important than the number is why. So I have to make the decision..do I want her after the wear and tear of 200 men?? Knowing her past is good in understanding who she was and who she has become, but who she is today should hold the most weight in determining if she is the best person for you. Currently behaves in a way that can hinder the growth of a relationship, and not allow herself to be the woman you would need. Life is short. So sure, women can be sluts and then claim they have grown, and changed, and moved past that time of their lives. Any guy walking around claiming to be the son of God, with convincing ID, should be locked up or exterminates..By the way, that goers for child molesters also, such as the Prophet Mohommid. Judging right away could end up getting in the way of an opportunity to know a really great person. Wow, so many issues with your post. Wow! Again I am not saying go out there and be loose just addressing your point about the wear and tear. Cheers for the educuation, random 17-year-old. You can do that without ever knowing how many partners she had. Now if she has actually slept with 80% of her male friends and she still associates with them, then I can see where that may be to tough of a pill to swallow. Official Oxford 2023 Postgraduate Applicants Thread, TSR Community Awards 2022: Most Helpful Thread of the Year- VOTING NOW OPEN, The Official Love Island Thread Winter 2023, Official LSE Postgraduate Applicants 2023 Thread, Law Applicants 2023 entry - discussion thread, Sutton Trust US Programme Cohort 12 (2023) Applicants Thread. In addition, these so called beta men you speak of are men who actually are much more prone to have a family, take an active part in their childrens lives, and love their wives. You feel it might reflect on her character and increase her chances of cheating on you? That just tells men you will move onto the next best thing when it comes to you. someone else. He did this by washing His disciples feet and telling them to do likewise. If a woman chooses to be a slut, there is a price to pay for that behavior with many men who will forever disqualify her from consideration as a serious partner to settle down with. I respected her view so much. Modern times, have Do you know that DNA from every Man U sleep with gets in your blood and stays in it for a very long time? A woman lies because she knows it decreases her Sexual Market Value. Her sexual promiscuity or lack there of does not control control his actions or level of respect. I dont care if you date women whove slept with over 20 or not. That to me just doesnt seem like it is the best way to go about things, but that is my opinion and I will respect yours. Again, you say the past shouldnt matter. I would feel disgusted if I would know my wife had slept with so many men, For those who think they are not even obliged to say how many people they have slept with is like the ones who think that they can cheat as long as their husband does not find out it is living a lie and if your husband would ever find out you could have a bad surprise because he is not aware on who he is living with and he can get as disgusted as I do , You had the fun? Its just a choice u made and a chance you took. It is difficult for women like that to pair-bond. Judge whoever you want to judge on their past. But you never hear people say Well, nobodys righteous.., do you. Do me a favor and email me this question to advice@stephanspeaks.com Im having all advice questions directed there. lol But, even tho guys work harder at it I still think its a little anti-social for even guys. After all, the past is the past, and none of us are perfect, and who are we to judge, right? Ladies need to just respect themselves overall. Being forced to settle for a woman who has been ridden like the town bike, and shared her body with dozens, if not hundreds of men is very weak, and very low-standard. Nothing wrong with knowing who she was with in the past, but understand and respect who she has become in the present. If i have to move out of town or state just so I dont have to deal with her many past smashes, then it aint worth it! In my eyes it matters is someone has had a decent approach to love and sex. If you I just hope she appreciates you and loves you in return. Still, a pregnancy or disease can and does occur. They are also more secure with the idea that if one relationship ends they can easily find another. They need to evaluate if this man is worthy, if he will stick around, if he will man up and assist her in raising the child or at the very least pay child support. But the average man, when hes serious about a woman, does care. To use the analogy of work, yes, fair comment. I completely agree with you that a womans sexual health (i.e. Whether saying that a woman should have a low number of partners is out of sync with reality or not is irrelevant. and she does not like sex and has never had an orgasm. Yes; if you are a man who is desperate, with few options, lonely, or perhaps a submissive beta, settling and investing in someone everyone else has gotten for free may be a solid option. many issues that person will have from having sex with so many people. Though neither worked out I had two completely different experiences. I applaud you that you have been able to wait, but that doesnt mean now you should look down on others who have not. What youre looking at is her psychology. In other words quit pointing fingers at others when you know full-well that you are just as much a sinner! Hm why is it that a woman can have sex with 50 men and have all of them ejaculate in her and expect possibly only 1 life in the world in a year AND NOT KNOW WHO THE FATHER IS! So, we all have desires we better not fulfill. On March 12, 2003, 15-year-old Elizabeth Smart was found safe nine months after being abducted from her family's home in Salt Lake City, Utah. You can develop a dont care attitude. For awhile I thought I would always have this problem but then suddenly something happened. She had to He was 19 at the time. The person asking or the person who has the power to say yes or no ? Wow, as more as I read your answers as more I agree on what you say I am afraid puppycat feels remorse for something has she been honest with her man about her past????? You know, there are a lot of people who always try to talk HIM out of existence maybe because they're really HOPING that HE doesn't exist. Hoe Stroll is defined as a period of time where a woman is much more promiscuous than she has ever been or will be again. I do not agree that the more partners she has had the more likely the marriage will fail. We will not live forever and we are of the flesh. So a man can use that as a measuring stick all he wants, but the reality is he may forever be getting false data. This is because men are at low risk they can walk away, and if the woman becomes pregnant she is the one who bears 9 months of pregnancy plus childbirth and the resulting minimum 5 years of childrearing. I understand more and more why God restricted it to marriage. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Im not bitter, Im BETTER andin retrospect, I can say this: as a man, it is impossible for me to love a woman more than I trust her. Because my man gets insecure and wants to leave Well Im sorry to tell you that no man wants damaged goods. For example, if your first sexual experience is a violent one, pain could cause you to become numb sexually and emotionally. Dont get mad if needs/wants change. Don't do it then. The divorce rate in the US has been declining since 1982 along with the marriage rate, and cohabitation is a big reason for it. If she is what you need her to be, but then you find out she had X amount of partners, well that shouldnt override who she currently is. Ive always been that way since I started having sex. Your source was concerned with the myth of high rate of divorce in general, and was not studying the relatively high incidences of higher divorce amongst women with more sexual partners. HE can build the world and populate it far quicker than SHE can. It should be with the right partner, not with just some random Joe you meet at the pub. early whether you are worth an investment (remember the biological urge This continued for 9 years or sountil one night having dinner with colleagues and i mentioned that i knew a lady that worked at a department store and she could get a discount for some one at the table.I was torn to pieces in front of everyone and humiliated! Again love this article! Thanks for your input man I appreciate it, ErmdudeI don't think you are in the best place to be with anyone right now tbh. Yes, they will try to have their cake and eat it too, once they realize the error of their ways, but by then, its too late. Some males like feeling dominated. The whole premise of this article is misguided. Gods commandment is.. Thou shalt not fornicate. Well that is the same than saying that a woman who cheat should not confess of course if the husband does not find out they could live happy for ever but the problem come that it is living a lie in both cases if the husband would have know the truth about the person they are living with probably would have not chosen to live with this person and that is the weight that the cheating/laying woman have to take with her for her whole life nor to say the fear of being caught. Yes a womans body is a masterpiece, etc The promiscuity/emotional baggage/spiritual damage/ and possible stds is it really worth it? You will feel that you left . And as a quick aside, we both know that if a man and a women who are equally attractive enter a bar and make a bet as to who can get laid first, the woman will always win. Today, the women are the same. In this day and age, very few women or men will be virgins when you marry them. Yeah I agree. If youknow your man is secure, then why wouldnt you tell him the truth? (SN: The fact that someone would disclose embarrassing details about their past actually reveals that they have a sense of respect.). It is one thing if you say I dont want to be with a woman who is currently promiscuous vs. overlooking a woman who currently does not engage in all that, but once upon a time she was on that path. Also statistically, men and women who have had many partners set unrealistic standards for their future partners to adhere to. When we dont heal from our past and address our issues we will likely set ourselves up fro more problems later. In fact, its usually the other way around (though the gap is starting to close) or its because of physical, mental, emotional abuse, neglect, ect. Is this maths answer correct for probability? She obviously had not displayed any of the 5 issues you laid out (at least she hasnt shown it one bit). Now i Can see why many of us Good Guys Cant meet a Good woman anymore today. Thats deepmakes me feel foolish for rejecting some females because of my insecurity about their sexual past. Hmm? Im just happy you were open minded enough to actually read it again and see where I was coming from. I often think about the young ladies who were sexually abused in the youth, or who were taught sex is the only way to love or keep someone. HAVING A LOT OF SEXUAL PARTNER IS JUST NOT RIGHT .. Men throwing themselves at women is acceptable in society. If your not going to be responsible w/ your body your either going to lose that double standard, or lose respect. Whos gonna stick around for that? I would find disgusting to kiss a woman of that kind. What should matter is if she is STD free. Unless, an individual has medical issues I dont feel I understand some of your arguements. Would you rather a girl lie to you or tell you the truth? I confronted her about it and she responded the number was 5. Everything else Ive suggest stems from this- respect. Its a selfish attempt to keep a woman to yourself even if you dont have feelings for her, you want her to keep her pussy tight. Get yourself a virgin problem solved.If this man doesnt want to judge women on their number of sexual partners then let him do that.Let him live. Men are not exempt! You understand, but at the same time, cant do anything to change Awesome! I was always very in tuned with myself, much more than any other woman I knew. I like how you caught yourself on that : ). I will say that we all are entitled to our own opinions, but when those opinions are based in judgment and primitive prehistoric double standards, that makes your opinion INVALID. I disagree that promiscuity is what has caused the highest divorce rate America has ever seen. And women who have slept with a lot of men are simply less likely to be deemed compatible as marriage-material. would sleep with them while single. Im not going obsess over the fact that my numbers may be to high. Ill try to stay afloat and let you know what I think. PROGRAMAO. Normally the good man doesnt have half the number of the slut girl. Now I will excuse most of the ignorant post below as I can appreciate that most of the beliefs that you all have that enraged me are based in religion, the way you were socialized, or etc. That there is no way to properly address things and move past what you used to do? The gossip of slandering the girls name and calling her a hoe. Or is it just society told you to have a problem with that? no. You are correct in that position, but what I am saying in this article is to not make final judgement based more on their past instead of the person they are today. Lmao!!! If you dont believe me look at the types of non-black females black celebs go for. I think you may be just saying what you think sounds right or politically correct, without actually thinking through the implications. And if I never read this post again and some young man is dealing with the same situation. If a woman is still behaving in a way you dont agree with then by all means keep it moving. These women get raped abused and have stupid parents who dont pay close enough attention when raising little girls. I see a lot of people replying to this kinda rudely, which I understand. Yep! dont forget the emotional wear and tear, the baggage. Sounds like you already know the answer to your conundrum. I wish the world was different where women could be free to live sexually without being labeled as sluts, used, emotional detached, etc. But one thing is for sure, I definitely wont each my daughter to be like me! All is equal and fair. . But to think you cant find anyone compatible with you is B-S. People use the word perfect as an excuse to not have to live up to any expectations. First let me say that I really like the advice that you post even though I occasionally disagree with your views, the vast majority of the time (92-97%) I feel that your advice perfectly sums up the solution that is going to bring about the best results. She is 20 years old and lost her virginity at 18 to the first relationship. Have you ever heard of kegel exercises? Get urself checked and keep ur pants on before u question her!!! There is nothing wrong with your disagreement, but they way you go about it is very negative and very unnecessary. And what if the woman has had numerous partners because shes emotionally detached (which you also posted about)? In this latest study, women who have had one partner instead of two are about 5 percentage points happier in their marriages, about on a par, Wolfinger says, with the boost that possessing a four . All they ever wanted was one person they could be comfortable around and have compatible morals with, and not wanting casual sex is generally due to those morals. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, FFS IDK WT HAPND 2MY QUESTION AND I DIDNT GET TO READ THE REPSONSE IF U HAVE As @ BIO, 2023 entry A100 / A101 Medicine fastest and slowest offer senders, TSR Community Awards 2022: Favourite Oldie - VOTING OPEN, BBC Fast Track Production Apprenticeships 2023. Dont say something here different from what u will o. I think men and women should be judged the same. The source material is quite easy to find. You are not sexually compatible) We cannot allow people to think "I can do whatever I want because people can't judge me anyway" because that promotes this view of doing and thinking wild things simply because you can get away with it. Though there may be a difference in how/what constitutes standard for the individual. I am 31 years Choosing to have however many partners you want does not mean that you do not have self respect. The willingness to speak truth and the bravery to acknowledge it is paramount. ConsistentlyI foundand my friends agree, that these women with basketball numbersare the ones more likely todo littlemore flirting, and view thisas well asother innapropriate thingsas no big deal. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, Official Dental Hygiene and Therapy (Oral Health Science) 2023 Entry Thread. 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