With that, it's fairly easy to figure out his age as events progress. As the child of John and Abigail, Jack lived his early years around the various members of the Van der Linde gang such as Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, Uncle, and even Dutch van der Linde, among others. It would be completely pointless. His hairstyle appears fairly similar to when he has a child, but he now wears a white button-up shirt and a vest. In 1911, Jack's appearance is roughly the same, only a few years older, though his hair has grown a bit longer. It's to the game's credit that there's no narrative pressure to avenge the injustice. His love for books and stories prompted him to aspire to become a writer or a scholar, which his parents partly approved, as they also wished for him to be a rancher. If the player attempts to target the gun or arm of the target (normally a disabling shot), the duel will be lost (the bar will simply not fill when targeting his hands; this happens in other important duels also). He is being badgered by the very organization he worked with, and he can't seem to shoot well anymore. I like this whole story.. but one thing I don't like in this is the fact that Jack starts calling himself "Tacitus killgore".. that was Arthur's alternate name and Jack had no idea that Arthur had been using that name in 1899.. Of course that would completely take the franchise away from the whole cowboy/western genre that it is literally centered around and make it a more COD/battlefield game. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. When playable, Jack can be heard muttering to himself or even towards his deceased father when idle for stretches of time. After his father's death, Jack begins to train extensively, mastering his abilities such as Dead Eye. In my head-canon he got imprisoned and eventually drafted into World War I. Considering she wouldve needed a new way to support herself and Jack, Abigail may have gone back to her old ways after Johns death. A Chicago style city in the mid North East, a San Fran in the south West just beyond the edge of the map, and a Florida a little South east of Saint Dennis on the other side of the River. 1907 He isnt robbing banks to get somewhere, he's doing it as a fuck you to the big guys who kept the little guys down. He will have his own sprinting animation but shares the same animations as John Marston. John left the gang along with Abigail and Jack, moving them to a ranch on Beecher's Hope to try and start over as ranchers and give Jack a better life in 1907, thanks to Arthur Morgan for his sacrifices. He, along with his mother, Abigail, and family friend, Uncle, are kidnapped by federal agents, who force John to hunt down his former brothers-in-arms. After visiting his wife and brother, Jack tracks Ross down to the banks of a Mexican river; the former agent enjoying his retirement with a spot of duck hunting. Arthur tells Tilly Jackson to take Jack to Copperhead Landing, to wait for Sadie and Abigail. Jack appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare; he is first shown sitting with his mother at the Marston residence, reading a book while discussing swearing with Abigail. Hi! but thing aren't as dandy as before as the ranch is falling apart and to get by jack turns to money leaders which continue to harass him on a daily basis. After talking to them, and learning of Edgar's whereabouts. After being untied, Jack and Abigail embrace John. I think he might of just did nothing but work on the farm not being able to get over killing him and either just die old and alone or surrounded by loving family. From there he embraces his outlaw past from his father and uncle, Arthur and john while also embracing a John Dillinger personality. Though her husband John Marston dies at the end of the originalRed Dead Redemption, Abigail and their son Jack manage to escape the Pinkertons and government forces, leading players to believe that both of them are safe momentarily. He continues living an ordinary life at The House, He gets a job at The General Store and calls himself Tacitus Kilgore again. Jack is ordered to stay in the house with his mother while John and Uncle fight off the invaders. The key point is redemption and Jack Marston does not have that. Sure, at the end of RDR1, he is depressed and motivated by revenge but there is still no need for him to redeem himself. So I believe he either went to war forcefully or fled to Mexico. I got nothin' to live for anyway!". If you go to a campfire with people there, they may talk about Edgar being killed by robbers. The age of outlaws was over. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Now under the player's control, he buries his Jack Marston (1924) In 1924, Jack quits his Job at The General Store in Valentine and packs his stuff and moves back to Beechers Hope. Jack sees his father for the first time after being kidnapped by the agency. However, Marston eventually ran away and, at some point later, met Dutch van der Linde, who took him in and saved him from a hanging in Chicago when he was 12 and served as a father figure to him alongside Hosea Matthews. The two hear wolves. The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. WebYou play as him after RDR1, meaning (at least for a while) he followed in his fathers footsteps and became an outlaw. The remaining members of the Marston family continue to live on the ranch. And my god, what an amazing game but it got me thinking we still don't really have a headcanon for Jack. He was also the only member of the Marstons who seemed to be in a constant positive relationship with Uncle, who taught him several inappropriate things much to John's disapproval. As a result of his upbringing, Jack initially lacked his father's courage and superior combat, farming, and survival skills, but possessed intelligence and empathy that far surpassed John's. Theplotkicks off in 1899,and it's established thatJack is roughly 4, having spent some of his formative years with the gang. He wears a dark grey vest, a blue and white vertically striped shirt, and brown pants. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease WebA long time ago there were several theories as to the fate of Jack. During the night, John and Abigail are confronted by a pale looking Uncle. Jack looks down at his handgun, understanding that while he avenged his family by killing the man who destroyed them, Jack is close to become an outlaw, the very life his father didn't want for him, and tried to avoid it in every way. Not even being gunned down by the government was enough to wipe his name away from the annals of history. Meeting Philip, Jack finally locates Ross down the river hunting ducks. WebIn 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. He leads a small group that roams around the country, but always makes it across state lines and gets around jurisdiction. Uncle tried to stop the young boy from riding to Tall Trees, but fails. Her tombstone reveals she was only 37 years old when she passed. He wouldve been the prime age they were looking for when the selective service act was enacted. WebGta 5 has easter eggs with books written by a j marston, jack always liked books so he probably became a writer. Declining to help Mary will prevent players from being able accept a future mission to help Mary's father.If Red Dead Redemption 2 players want to avoid this mistake, they should agree to help Mary. Now a nineteen-year-old gunslinger and the spitting image of his father with similar skill in combat, Jack decides to hunt down his father's killer in revenge. Suddenly. Actor Just about everyone I knew in the Army hated the government. He is now a fully grown adult, aged 19, and sports a mustache and a goatee. Jack also had one sister. After taking Abigail from the house, and the three head for the barn, where John gets Jack and Abigail on a horse. Mansion (?) But he may have had resentment towards the government for using and killing his father. During the time from the death of John, until he began his revenge quest, Jack changed much of his appearance and behavior; he shaped his hair to be similar to his father's haircut, wore a white jacket and his father's hat, as well falling to depression and becoming rather aggressive. Thanks mainly to the help of John's closest friend in the gang, Arthur, the Marston family managed to escape from their life of crime, with the intention of starting a new life. They bury John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. Unfazed by Ross' threats to kill him, Jack challenges the older man to a final duel. As someone said earlier, hes prime age. Either way, unfortunately, the true cause of Abigails death will remain a mystery thanks to the reluctance of the Red Dead Redemption games to name a definite reason. Marshals and Bureau agents, led by Edgar Ross. As Jack's past catches up to him, his criminal record attracts the attention of the new head of the FBI, Archer Fordham. Like his father, Jack can wear any outfits that are unlocked, however none except the default Cowboy Outfit actually change in appearance. This is pure speculation, but also a hope for RDR3. Despite only three years passing, Jack appears decidedly older than 19, although this can be chalked up to the stress of his parent's deaths and his rough lifestyle. A nineteen-year-old Jack, fresh after burying his mother. as jack is sitting on his porch, he notices 4 armed officers approaching down his drive. Towards the ending of the gameor at least, the first endingJohn is gunned down on his own farm,having beenbetrayed by Bureau of Investigation agent Edgar Ross, who previously forced him to track down other members of the Van der Linde crew. Family Unless he was REALLY lucky, Jack probably died of some disease or died in one of the World Wars, that is if he volunteered or was drafted. Jack confronts the retired agent about his part in John's death, but Ross simply dismisses John's actions as his own fault. Remember My Family/dialogues During the ride there and back, Jack inquires his father about his meeting with the MacFarlanes, as well as revealing that it was his first time visiting Hennigan's Stead. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Were jack decides to put his life on the western front, The first world war has come to a close, also with Jack's military service ending with being able to return back to the United States. Apparently the events of Undead Nightmare end up in a similar fashion to the original Red Dead Redemption, and John finds his death, being buried at the same location where he was buried in Redemption. With jack heading to California to settle down and become a famous arthur. While helping strangers Jack will often lament that he has nothing to live for. A major theme of his character is his sense of inferiority when compared to his father John, a veteran and experienced gunslinger and hunter. During the non-canon Undead Nightmare DLC, Jack becomes infected, along with his mother. After the elk hunting, Jack begins to train with his rifle. The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. He is also capable of using Dead Eye Targeting. Jack's general attitude, character and personality in 1914 is very reflective of the player's honor level. After exacting his revenge on Edgar ross he returns back to beeches hope where he continues his work as a rancher. It would also go well with the game since it's called RDR II, it would effectively make the game a sequel as well as a prequel to the original. Dialogues As a little bit of added guilt to weigh on our boy Jacks mind, anyone he helped, anyone he gave money to, would be punished as well. In fact, there's no immediate pressure to do this, and the game will gladly let players roam the towns and countryside as if they were simply replacing John. He explains that ever since his ancestors left the Black Sea, his family has been travelers and explorers. And also like his father he can not swim. Abigail originally became associated with the Van der Lindes when she was working as a prostitute. WebI know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. Jack's deep love for his family also ironically results in becoming the very thing his parents didn't want him to be: an outlaw. WebWhat happens if you don't help Mary in RDR2? Hidden Easter eggs, cut game-file content and much more! Josh Blaylock (RDR, Undead Nightmare)Marissa Buccianti (child) (RDR 2) Ted Sutherland (pre-teen) (RDR 2) But by 1923 things began to take a turn as not only was Jack's gang life slowly fadingt and not wanting to his gang the end up like dutch's gang so made plans to leave as the new york crime family was also falling apart and was starting to kill of the associates one by one. he stands quickly and tells his wife to get the rifle. Sometime after helping both Abigail and Uncle, John takes time with teaching Jack hunting and skinning. I don't think John knew he was going to abandon Abigail and Jack, but regardless there's not really any reason he would opt to help Dutch later on when the whole point of going after Dutch in RDR1 was to save John's family. The game has been out for a year, but a potential spoiler warning, to any that havent played it yet. Jack gets his own take on the game's default outfit, the Cowboy Outfit, which sees him wearing a beige jacket. By 1914, Jack has received every weapon, horse, house, and outfit his father possessed before his death. The two begin to talk about their future as ranchers, as well about the future of technology. Birthday: born in 1895. Jack Marston (1915) - After a year, Jack heads back to Beecher's Hope. Horses can obviously traverse terrain easily, fast bunch need breaks and food. When players first meet John Marston in the first Red Dead Redemption, he is fresh off the train from his farmstead, which has been rendered nearly vacant as the FBI abducted his family in an attempt to strongarm him The screen turns red and black, and the end credits follow. WebAt some stage during Jack's early years, John left the gang for a year. Jack also appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare and appears once again as a major character in Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead Redemption is a Western-themed action-adventure game played from a third-person perspective.The player controls John Marston and completes missionslinear scenarios with set objectivesto progress through the story; in the game's epilogue, the player controls John's son Jack. He wears a white button-up shirt and a vest. If approached by a prostitute Jack will instead turn them down and may remark that his family would disapprove, showing that he still values the morals his family taught him. When approached by a prostitute they will be disgusted with Jack and turn him down. Unfortunately, I think somewhat of the same outcome. So Jack made a deal with the FIB so that if takes down the crime family jack and his gang can all have their names cleared off and the agent agrees and after jack and his gang are able to leave the life of crime. Pick a crew, and plan it out. Maybe promoting flashback missions? The latter indicates Ross' location. Abigail and Jack return to the ranch soon after, only to find that John had been killed. Jack rides to the top of Nekoti Rock, where he is attacked and injured by a bear who lived at the cave on the top of the mountain, while his horse is killed and half-eaten by the bear. He has also taken to wearing his father's hat. i think hed either be a PE type bootlegger or a lawmen. The death of his family and the decline of the Marston ranch, all happening in a very short amount of time, greatly darkened Jack's personality. The only canonical action of jack Marston is killing Edgar Ross, as thats when the credits roll, I think at some point he would have shipped off to europe for ww1. Ending credits Even if he did find out about that, he would've forgotten it by 1914.. so logically there's no way Jack can apply the name "Tacitus killgore" for himself. And the goal is like GTA heists. A horse killer? During the cutscene, the agent points Jack to the south of Lake Don Julio; furthermore, the newspaper includes a story indicating that Edgar is living near the lake. I think he dies in the end unless you have stupidly good karma, in which case he settles in Mexico. Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. Howard Sawicki His whole lifes goal was to kill Ross, the man who betrayed and killed his father in cold blood. Down the riverbank, following Philip's indications, the player encounters Edgar Ross. Died in 1881. He basically spends a good time after his fathers revenge being a Wild West vigilante. He spends most of his time reading, which furthers his knowledge but also made him shy. shown on the map, but technically acts as the final mission of the game, as well as the chronological final mission in the Redemption series. Personally, I think after Jack killed Ross, his life spiraled, and he went into a deep depression. Arthur says goodbye to Jack, telling the young boy to "be brave". That's the end of the story. Despite the mutual struggle to understand each other, Jack shared a very close bond with John. And being VERY generous with his cash. I know this is a really old thread but im replaying the game right now and i love talking about this game! Martelli's gang can be a gang you take out at some point or convince to join you. He wears a blue coat, a red scarf, and beige pants. Hearing the shots, Jack and Abigail rush to the farm, where they find the corpse of a heavily shot John. With this, Jack departs Blackwater. John Marston, Jr. also known as Jack Marston, is a character in the Red Dead series who appears as the deuteragonist of Red Dead Redemption. Died in 1873. He truly is Rockstar's most tragic character. Lake Don Julio Jack puts back the handgun in his hostler, before walking away from the scene. He quits ranching and closes everything down. In Grand Theft Auto Online, it is possible for the Online Protagonist to be a relative of Jack as the player can choose to have John Marston as the father (impossible for John because the online protagonist would be dead by the events of GTA Online). Rockstar Games Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. You play as him after RDR1, meaning (at least for a while) he followed in his fathers footsteps and became an outlaw. WebMarston eventually finds his corpse being eaten by vultures. The first officer says theres no reason for that We got about 30 more surrounding the tree line jack would pause So youve come here to arrest me? Jack would shout. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. The next day, Jack and his father visit MacFarlane's Ranch, owned by John's friends Drew and Bonnie MacFarlane, to purchase cattle from them. The sacrifice does however allow Marston's wife and son to escape, and they eventually return to bury him, marking his grave with stones and a wooden cross. By already this time, Jack has begun to read books. In his quest for revenge, Jack kept a rather calm and friendly demeanor, and had his anger in check, only showing his intense hatred for Ross when the latter dismissed John's death as his own fault upon being confronted. I think realistically the best choice is to keep going backwards, show us the gang young, and we can see characters like Davey, learn about Hosea's relationship (I can't remember her name) and Arthur's time with Mary. If I were to really cross my fingers, it would be the same map with 3 new cities. 1914 After watching his father killing and skinning an elk, Jack finds another group, kill one of them, and skins it. This left eight-year-old John orphaned, so he wassent to an orphanage. After John completed tasks for Abigail and Uncle, he begins to spend time with Jack. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. Sometime ago, Jack lost his younger sister. He probably wouldnt join the US Army given that they killed his father. The Story of Jack Marston after RDR1. Jack Marston (1914) - Jack kills Ross and rides back to Beecher's Hope. A few days weeks later, The Pinkertons show up and invade Beecher's Hope. Jack defends the property and after he kills most of them, They Retreat As they are losing too many men. She may have been killed by someone seeking revenge against John, particularly associates of the gang members he hunted down in the first game. After scaring off the wolves, John asks Jack to stay out trouble. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. He is now as tall as his father was, and is of a similar build. https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI_ain%E2%80%99t_goin%E2%80%99_nowhere_old_man!%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:E_D_G_A_R_R_O_S_S.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI%E2%80%99m_sure_your_husband_will_be_just_fine%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_knew_my_father%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_shot_him_like_a_dog!%E2%80%9D.ogg. The player can use this mission to acquire the Semi-auto Shotgun for free; simply fail the duel until Ross has the Semi-auto Shotgun equipped, then kill him and loot the gun. Press J to jump to the feed. A while later, Jack and Abigail bury John and Uncle on a hill overlooking the ranch. The exact circumstances around the death of John's father are unknown, although John was told by others that he died in a bar fight, possibly the same one where he was blinded. As Abigail goes to the kitchen, John asks Jack what he is reading. Eventually Abigail is beaten by Uncle who is shot by John. Even Red Harlow, Revolvers main character, is remembered in Redemption. I believe he went on to star as Wesley Crusher on Star Trek. I know many might think that he became a writer, but I honestly believe that he became a marshal or sheriff. If Jack has a low Honor level, he will in turn have a sadistic, belligerent attitude during gameplay and often makes dark jokes whenever he kills a horse, an outlaw or a woman, but also shows signs of disgust at himself and questions his own actions. Sometimes only at the end of a story do you realize what it was all really about. WebAt the end of Red Dead Redemption 2, Sadie Adler, John Marston, and Charles Smith avenge the death of Arthur and the unnecessary falling apart of Dutch's Gang by killing Micah Bell. Unnamed Scottish great-great grandparents of John - Possibly murdered by the English government. Jack refuses to back down which results in a duel between the two, where Edgar Ross is gunned down. arrived. Jack holstering his handgun after killing Ross. After one wave of attackers, Jack joins John and Uncle in the fight, but Uncle soon dies from a fatal bullet, to Jack's horror. The Red Dead Redemption series doesn't shed a lot of light on how Abigail Marston died, but there are various theories trying to explain it. Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in Americas unforgiving heartland. But saying that I think a game beginning with Jack returning from the war and trying to adjust to modern life would fit the themes of the games so far, it'd just obviously be quite a different setting. Went back to Beecher's Hope and Ranched. Attempting to snipe Edgar prior to the duel will result in an automatic mission failure; as well as simply looking at him through the scope, even if the trigger isn't pulled. 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